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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Chicago and W&M have a similar problem - kids don’t want rigorous academics without a big dose of fun. W&M is hampered by the VA rule that requires 2/3 of students cone from VA. W&M is more like a LAC and most of those schools have 2000 kids, not 6500. Trying to squeeze so many admits out of VA plays to the strengths of NOVA, which is wealthy and educated. Then, [b]W&M gets hit for insufficient Pell and first-gen, who if they’re going to go to college want STEM, which W&M partly has, but not engineering.[/b]

WUSTL is a a great school, but also a rich kid’s school. Not a lot of poors there. [/quote]

From the plans it would look like they are planning to start offering some engineering in a few years, though, no?  https://www.wm.edu/offices/facilities/departments-directors/fpdc/construction/currentprojects/isc4.php

I don't think it will ever become a big sports rah-rah school though and it is hard to imagine all FGLI are attracted to rah-rah by default.[/quote]

WM - and some other schools - don’t really fit on the national university list and it seems like WM should really be ranked with the liberal arts schools. They don’t really have many graduate programs, it’s basically an undergrad institution. That’s one of the many things about these rankings that are silly. You aren’t comparing apples to apples.

The new rankings have Tufts and a Rutgers tied. No question you can get a good education at Rutgers and the value for the money may make sense but I think it’s clear that the caliber of student at Tufts is a lot higher across the board. All else being equal I think Tufts is a better school. Now, in the real world, all else isn’t equal and I can certainly understand someone not wanting to pay for Tufts vs Rutgers but[b] I think the new methodology has deviated from assessing the schools based on the overall quality of the education.[/b] [/quote]

+1 I really think this is going to hurt the USNWR--people always complained about its lack of credibility, but the new methodology coming at a time when test optional is also shaking things up, just is a bridge too far.  I think it's going to be like GreatSchools rankings where a larger majority of people think they are crap.[/quote]

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