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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The scores are so tightly clustered, it gets pretty silly. All this Pell Grant nonsense is meaningless.

The methodology should be based on standardized tests as a measure of student quality and third party academic reputation [/quote]

I would add graduation rate, but your overall point is valid. The percentage of Pell Grant students has no bearing on the quality of education a school provides. It's woke nonsense.[/quote]

I actually disagree with this. The number of Pell Grant students says a lot about the values of the institution and about the diversity of community of students who attend, both of which are very important to my kids.[/quote]

I should add, both of these things also impact the quality of education at the institution.[/quote]

But it really doesn't and you know it.  Basically it's saying the best schools are the ones with the most very poor students.  This is only true to the extent the number of very poor students a school can afford to educate is proportional to its endowment per student.   So Princeton and Williams crush it with Pell Grants.  And in general, the more money a school has, the more resources, etc.  But it's a very indirect way of making this about how big the endowment is and if we want to just rank schools by endowment per capita, we don't need US News.

There is really no information value to me as a parent in terms of what the 6 year graduation rate for Pell students is.  And I think at this point, all the schools are just trying to game that measurement somehow given how highly it is weighted.

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