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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, we're all on stolen land. Everything we have is built on land that was never ours or meant to be ours. [/quote] But what is "stolen" land? Simple definition is that it's land that was taken from its present occupier by force and settled by another once the previous occupier was forced out. Often this is the result of a battle or a war. But isn't this literally how almost every society/civilization in history came to be on its piece of land? They were either there first and never challenged by another potential occupier OR they were challenged and won OR they were challenged and lost--to the the winner go the spoils? No? If WWII had gone differently, the whole of France and England and maybe the US too would be speaking German right now. But Germany didn't win, so they didn't get to add that land to their empire. Even the natives of "our" land battled it out in this manner. So if we gave it back, would there be consensus on who we give it back to? And why [i]this [/i]land but not other land? Why wouldn't we give back California to Mexico? And since "we" (of these generations who live here now) didn't do the fighting that resulted in the win, is it even really "ours" to give back? This is all rhetorical. But it's an oddly recent notion, this thing of calling land "stolen" when there were wars and battles fought that brought about the result. Is war barbaric? I'd say yes. But it also resulted in the advancement of western civilization as we know and live it. There's always a tradeoff and hindsight of such certainty doesn't allow for nuance.[/quote]
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