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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Strangest post on this forum in quite a while. Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.[/quote] There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.[/quote] Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/[/quote] Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all. [/quote] In terms pd admissions, the quality of an incoming class based on only gpa (and extracurriculars) with no standardized test scores, the overall trends in gpa at the majority of high schools is of course what matters.[/quote] Extracurriculars don't matter that much for UC schools. Grades have always mattered the most (even before they got rid of testing). Specifically, grades from 10th grade onward, adjusted for the difficulty of the course load. That's why, unless they're gunning for privates, a common pattern for high schoolers who are aiming for Berkeley is to not take any APs freshman year, then take some soph year and really load up junior year. That maximizes your instate GPA. Junior year is the killer. [/quote]
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