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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How would people feel about a lottery for college admissions? So for example: everyone with 1500 plus and 4.0 gets a lottery ticket to a top school. That seems to be the only way to solve all the angst. Otherwise things will continue to be legislated. [/quote]

This is often suggested, and it is very very silly.

You are suggesting that colleges don't get to build their class and choose their students, and that students don't get to choose the college they apply to, or at best only get to apply to one.

Worse for the colleges, worse for the student, and somehow that is more "fair"?  By pulling names out of a hat?

I suggest you rethink this idea.[/quote]

If colleges are telling the truth about having multiple qualified applicants for every seat, why should they care? [/quote]

[b]Because under your system they won't get that.[/b]

Because if they thought pulling names out of a hat was the best way to do it, that is what they would do al;ready.

Because they know that a thoughtful selection process is the best way to increase likelihood of good results, which is why a thoughtful selection process is used for every college, job, program, selective club, etc on the planet.[/quote]

Nonsense. Harvard can say we want a 3.8 UW GPA a 1540 SAT and x number of leadership positions or y number of service hours or z varsity letters. All the kids who hit that criteria, get their names drawn out of a hat. If you trust schools more, applicants are marked as qualified or not and everyone qualified goes into a lottery. [/quote]

But Harvard wants more than that.  They want kids who will be game changers.  They want the kids who did Y service hours but would have done them even if not needed for college admissions and who will continue down this path while in college and beyond, they want kids who lived the HS years doing what they are genuinely interested in and are leaders in their own right and that is different for each person, given their circumstances (be it rich kids, UMC kid, LMC kid, low income kid, etc).   it's really not that difficult to understand.  However, most are just upset because their kid may not have the final "IT Factor" that the school is looking for and feel their snowflake deserved Harvard because they worked hard and got good grades and checked all the boxes.   IT's not how college application process should ever work and not how the real world works.  Nobody hires for a job by "looking at resumes and if you are qualified for the actual job, well we are gonna do the drawing at 2pm today, good luck and congrats to the lucky 2 winners".  Yes, life isn't fair.  We have all missed out on a job because someone got it instead with better connections, not better skills.  That is life.  You can learn from that or you can just be upset and pout.  Most of us learn from that---by learning to build as many connections as you can in your professional career along with being the best, most qualified person for your job.  Focus on what you can change---trust me, there will always be some favoritism in the professional world, someday it might be you getting the benefits.   [/quote]

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