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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1.) what field are you in?
2.) you need supervisory experience in the federal government. You’re not going to get an SES position without  it. You’ve never handled HR issues, hiring, managing in the federal government. You need it. [/quote]

1) I’ll just say Physical Sciences. 
2) This is false. I know of a few very prominent SESers in my field who were non supervisory 15s prior to being SES and had no official federal supervisory duties, but like me, led scientific research teams. Maybe it’s not as heavy a requirement in science agencies?[/quote]

You can definitely find people for whom that’s true and it would definitely be more common in scientific and technical agencies, but it is still more commonly preferred. My FIL was an SES and apparently assumed my husband couldn’t get there because he doesn’t have a PhD. That was probably true at the agency he worked. Now, my husband is an SL, at a related but separate agency (both DoD) in a financial field.

The fact is that these jobs are hard to get. I’m not an SES and I honestly have no ambition to be one, but having worked with many over the years, it’s a cultivated trajectory (and sometimes just luck). Do you have a mentor?[/quote]

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