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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like others said, usually the only schools that make a big difference above the likes of UMD, Wisconsin, etc. schools for CS are -

Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon. The larger Ivies also might get an edge in some locations due to being Ivies.

The next crop of schools after that are all large publics - Maryland, Michigan, Washington, UC San Diego, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Purdue, etc.

There's not much premium for T20 privates over the large publics for being T20. [/quote]

I'm a hiring manager and I agree with this.  I'll also say that I'm not even sure how much of a difference Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon make; I've interviewed some real duds from these schools.[/quote]
IMO, it's the DEI and holistic admissions they are using.  Some CMU TA I spoke to said they are seeing a lot more CS undergrads who need a lot of help with the math classes.

Also, an A is not really an A in many of the HS anymore due to grade inflation, test retakes.  SAT math doesn't go up to Calc, but obviously, CS majors have to take math classes way beyond Calc. This where they get tripped up.[/quote]

That’s a huge problem with AA/DEI/“holistic” admissions.  [b]Colleges are not taking the best and brightest students.[/b] [/quote]

You're confusing aptitude (potential) with ability (existing skills). It's easy, around here, to think that every kid can take a raft of AP/IB classes. But a friend from Pennsyltucky, for example, says that her high school doesn't offer any AP classes, and the nearest community college is an hour away, so DE isn't an option. That doesn't mean the kids there aren't capable of learning calculus or advanced physics. They just aren't able to take college-level classes until they go to college.[/quote]
Valid point, but what my kid is seeing in their HS (where there is access to MVC) is that at least half of the kids getting into your MIT / CMU are the ones checking DEI or sports box versus the students doing well in upper-level math classes.[/quote]

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