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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]HYPSM, Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Caltech, Hopkins, in some combination.[/quote]

Why do so many people group HYPSM? Private counselors really push it and push things like "top 10" when any ranking has a school in the top 10. At this point it really is HS and then a gap.
Top 10 is a completely arbitrary cutoff and there is no solid list. Several lists have Chicago and Hopkins outside the top 10 for example.[/quote]

Is Chicago regularly top 10 in most rankings outside of USNWR? It is a great school but I thought it was a darling more particular to USNWR and the DC Big 3's top backup plan.[/quote]

Yes it is very much outside the top 10 on most rankings. Someone combined the 8 most cited undergrad rankings and created an aggregate: [url]https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1117705.page[/url]. UChicago was ranked 20th in aggregate and was only top 10 in 2 out of the 8 most cited undergrad rankings. The only schools in the top 10 in all 8 rankings were actually Stanford, MIT, Princeton, and Duke. This aggregate is a better measure for which schools are the best because it doesn't allow schools to "target" or "game" any specific rankings - only the schools that are truly the best and have impressive core programs will stay consistent across multiple rankings.[/quote]

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