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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ridiculous![/quote]

Sounds like this test doesn't provide any helpful information about student outcomes so not all that ridiciulous.[/quote]

??? You are completely wrong.  
All the studies by MIT, UC, etc.. proved that standardized tests are good indication for academic success in colleges.

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NP. You are completely wrong. The results from studies are mixed—some say test scores don’t correlate with success, some say they do, some say they correlate but aren’t the best predictor of success. There is no definitive evidence in any direction.

And what schools going test-optional seem to be finding is that they can select successful students without test scores, so they are removing it as a required factor in admissions.[/quote]

The UC system did a comprehensive review using millions of students over the years.  They found that standardized test scores were the single best predictor of college success.  Test scores and grades were better than either one alone.  Kuncel and Sackett (University of Minnesota) have done extensive research using data from millions of students as well and came to the same conclusions.  The data for test scores being predictive is pretty overwhelming at this point, and the studies that show it have massive amounts of real data behind them.    Most of the other studies are from a single universities, which suffer from range restriction.

Colleges are not removing standardized test requirements because they don't work; they're removing them because they do.  [/quote]

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