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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is there only one 5/6 class?  How many Math 5 classes are there?[/quote]

OP here. At our school, there are 4 math 5 classes and only one math 5/6 class. [/quote]

This was the case for us last year when my youngest was in it. 36 or so kids in the class. They had the Staff Development teacher come up and co-teach sometimes. (Not sure if co-teach is the right word. She'd peel off a group of 10 or so and teach those kids that day. My kid vastly preferred being in her group.

When DD took it a few years ago, there were so many kids in the 4/5 class that kids had to sit on the floor. Parents pitched a fit until they re-did the entire 4th grade schedule to make 2 classes of 4/5.[/quote]

Is this CCES by chance? That’s what is happening for us there this year. The CES 5/6 classes are smaller (no more than 28), but kids in the general education programmed are crammed together into one class, with an extra teacher in to work with kids in small-group time. It is not going well. [/quote]

Not OP but I’m fairly certain this is CCES and that the decision to not split the kids is based purely on Jody finding it annoying (and not wanting to give in to 5/6 parents - she is stubborn). [/quote]

DP and I agree with you. She has no problem having smaller class sizes for CES, but no way will she offer that to the kids in the general education program who qualify for enrichment. It's clear she only cares about the CES program. [/quote]

The CES classes are all that size County-wide. She doesn’t have leeway to make the CES classes any larger or smaller. Usually, with the exception of the compacted math classes, all the neighborhood classes are much smaller (20-22) than the CES classes. I agree 36 in a class is terrible and I’m sorry. I wouldn’t be happy with that ratio for my student. But this isn’t a case of favoring the CES. It’s a case of balancing the needs of the math 5 kids and students below grade level with the unfortunate number of compacted kids. If you had 40 instead of 36, she’d need to split them. 
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Math isn’t part of the CES program. She could put CES and general-ed math 5/6 kids in the same classes and have them spread out more evenly. She could also have 2 5/6 classes in general ed and 3 math 5 classes. She refuses to do it and in fact keeps adding kids into the general education 5/6. It’s absolutely a choice, and it underscores what she cares about. [/quote]

At PBES they intentionally mix CES with compacted so that it's better integrated into the school. Further, there's only one CES class but 3 compacted 5/6 classes. CES kids are evenly spread out across those classes. Some may not even be in compacted. Nobody knows.[/quote]

Slightly different situation bc PBES is a local CES and all of those students are part of the home school community. [/quote]

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The point is it's well within CCES ability to rectify the situation. Compacted math and CES aren't related.[/quote]

Exactly. The principal absolutely could combine classes. She chooses not to. The CES kids are completely separated from the non-CES kids. No classes, specials, lunch, or recess together. [/quote]

Ok but you sort of made the opposite point. It isn’t as though she combines them for recess and PE and then refuses to combine them for compacted math. There is consistency in the schedule and structure. I completely understand why a gen Ed parent would be frustrated by this choice vis a vis the CES, but you should really consider that it’s an issue with how to balance the class sizes between the gen Ed math classes. Think of the CES like an immersion program, an entirely separate entity. [/quote]

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