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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP.  When DC was auditioning for AYPO at 11, his teacher told me that kids are around Suzuki book 3-4 level.  Fwiw [/quote]

If that's generally true for all of them, then they're behind MCYO.[/quote]

Probably depends on what they’re auditioning for. Debut orchestra probably doesn’t require much higher standards (2+ years of private instruction).[/quote]

Wanted to add that a friend’s child who is in the String Ensemble is at Kabalevsky level. [/quote]

ugh, this concerns me. she is not there yet, I actually talked to her teacher about kabalevsky G major recently - DD felt she could play it but he told me she was not there yet. she is pretty good (has fantastic sight reading skills) but I've seen some insane violin playing at competitions (where she gets first and second prizes but has never been the laureate) so I know there are kids out there who are better and some are much better.[/quote]

NP. I also find that attitude concerning.  The attitude can be toxic.  Hopefully it gets better as the kids get older but not always.[/quote]

It doesn’t have to be toxic. Just emphasize that everyone is working hard and trying their best and you’re not going to always win the audition. My DD has always placed at competitions and occasionally wins but usually is 2nd or 3rd prize or HM. But the attempt makes her polish her pieces in a way she would not do otherwise. She has also met new friends among the competitors. For ensembles I tell her not to worry about who is in what chair. They can’t help but notice it to a certain degree, but that is life. It’s good to learn to handle friendly competition gracefully. The point is to gain ensemble skills and have a little motivation for trying your best.[/quote]

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