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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let's look at actual data.  This is all from the AAP equity report and reflects the 2018 2nd grade cohort.

For AA kids, 26 were in Pool, 61 were Teacher referred, 179 were parent referred, and 154 of those got accepted to AAP
For Hispanic kids, 72 were in pool, 139 were teacher referred, 199 were parent referred, and 270 got in.
For White kids, 596 were in pool, 114 were teacher referred, 1044 were parent referred, 879 got in.
For Asian kids, 592 were in pool, 79 were teacher referred, 555 were parent referred, and 677 got in.

This means that for AA kids, while only 9.8% of the files evaluated had in pool scores, 57.9% of all AA files were found eligible.  For Asian kids, 48.2% of the files evaluated had in pool scores, and yet only 55% of the files were found eligible.  There was no real difference between the median GBRS scores of AAP eligible kids when broken down by race.

I don't necessarily disagree with giving a leg up to URMs in AAP admissions.  If you look at the data, though, it's ludicrous to imagine that the process is race blind.  
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So white kids have the lowest admit rate?[/quote]

Yep.  If we take the numbers further and assume that 67% of In Pool kids are accepted, 50% of parent referrals are accepted, and 80% of teacher referrals are accepted, then these rates would predict that 156 AA kids would get in (very close to the actual value), 259 Hispanic kids would get in (lower than the actual value), 1011 White kids would get in (much higher than the actual value), and 735 Asian kids would get admitted (higher than the actual value)

This is consistent with the findings that given the same test scores and GBRS, AA kids are much more likely than white kids to get admitted, and Asian kids are very slightly more likely than white kids to get admitted.  None of this would be reasonable if the process were race blind.  Unlike TJ admissions, though, FCPS has never claimed that AAP admissions are race blind.

From the article: 
"This means that although African American and Hispanic students are still disproportionally underrepresented in Level IV services, they are actually being placed in Level IV services at higher rates than would be expected given their NNAT, CogAT, and GBRS scores. African American students with similar scores as their European American peers were identified for Level IV services at a rate of 5.7 to 1. Similarly, while Asian American students are disproportionally overrepresented in Level IV services compared to their enrollment in the overall FCPS population, this rate is close to what should be expected given their test scores. Asian American students with similar scores as their
European American peers were identified for Level IV services at a rate of 1.1 to 1"

Wouldn’t the lower white admit rate be due to high parent referral rates? Which tends to admit less kids overall?
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Sorry meant to put this outside quotes: Wouldn’t the lower white admit rate be due to high parent referral rates? Which tends to admit less kids but overall?[/quote]

That was already accounted for in the equity report, which compared kids across races with very similar test scores and GBRS.  Also, the math above shows that even if you assume the standard rates of 67% acceptance for in-pool and 50% for parent referrals, with an additional assumption of 80% for teacher referrals, white kids are being admitted at much lower rates than predicted.  [/quote]

Right. I just meant that since white parents refer at twice the rate of Asian parents, it would stand to reason that white kids are admitted at slightly lower rates.[/quote]

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