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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The AAP equity report showed that given the exact same test scores and GBRS, AA kids were 5 times more likely than Asian kids to be admitted to AAP.  That result is statistically improbable if all identifying information is scrubbed from the file.  Either the committee knows the race of the kid or can guess the race based on school, FARMS status, or Young Scholars.  One way or another, race is an input in the system[/quote]

I would expect that Teacher Referrals have the highest level of admits, then in-pool referrals, and then parent referrals.

I would guess that Teacher referrals, which happen at a higher rate for AA and Hispanic kids because their parents are less likely to parent refer, end up with a high acceptance rate because the Parent who is putting the kids name in is writing the GBRSs. A Teacher who refers a kid with a 120 CogAT is going to give that kid with the CogAT a strong GBRSs. A Parent referred kid with a 120 CogAT is not as likely to get high GBRSs, it ends up depending more on the individual kid an the individual Teacher. The Audit you are referencing calls out that White and Asian families are far more likely to parent refer and encourages Teachers to refer kids whose parents are less likely to refer, which tend to be AA and Hispanic kids at Title 1 and near Title 1 scores.

I believe 2/3 of the kids who are In-Pool are accepted into AAP. So higher test scores on their own. It is not hard to see that kids with higher test scores are probably doing well in school and that Teachers would end up writing stronger GBRSs for said students. The 1/3 who are not accepted are the kids that scored well but are not doing well in school or displaying the traits that the GBRSs are looking for for whatever reason.

Parent referrals have a 50% chance of leading to acceptance. And this is where you find a lot of White and Asian families. Test scores are not high enough to be in-pool and the possibility that their track record at the school is not strong enough to lead to high GBRSs is greater. So that 120 White or Asian kid from McLean who is parent referred is likely to have very different GBRSs then the 120 kid from a Title 1 school that the Teacher Referred. And that is where you get the difference that you are talking about.

If they changed the process so that it was only in-pool on test score or Teacher referred it would be interesting to see how different the process would play out. It would be a far smaller pool and I suspect the acceptance rate would be far higher then the current process. But then Teachers at some schools would be dealing with the parents who come here and complain that their kid had crappy GBRSs because the Teacher didn't see their kid as deserving of AAP at Parent Teacher conferences and calling the Principal to complain about the Teacher. And there would be the attempts to get kids into the class with the teacher who will refer everyone. And all those headaches.

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Intersting theory but unlikely given there are so few AA or Hispanic children in these programs.[/quote]

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