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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From a purely academic, cultural, and quality standpoint, and not an athletic one (which, let's be honest, is the real relevance of the Ivy League), it's: Stanford, MIT, Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, and Johns Hopkins.

Let's not get into inane hypotheticals about DI vs DIII, or bring in lesser schools just for the sake of entertaining your own personal fantasy.[/quote]

Same repeat poster in this thread.

Serious question: Which elite academic schools do you think would benefit from Ivy League membership ?

Stanford just doesn't need the Ivy League, and if Stanford joined the Ivy League, it would likely reduce Stanford's brand value. [b]Brand value? It's clear you've never attended any of the schools in the Ivy League or on this list[/b]

Would Chicago be willing to give up its reputation for quirkiness and manipulative marketing tactics for Ivy membership ? Doubtful as Chicago has mastered its marketing scheme and doesn't need the Ivy brand. [b]D-3, does not have football, would not spend the $ for athletics, alumni and faculty would revolt[/b]

MIT also seems to be doing fine on its own. How would MIT benefit from joining the Ivy League ? MIT already has a brand as powerful as Harvard and Stanford. And you want us to ignore athletics. [b]D-3, would not jump to D-1 play, alumni and faculty would revolt[/b]

Duke ? Duke's culture includes a heavy athletic emphasis that would be greatly diminished by Ivy League membership. [b]You think Duke is just about sports? Stanford is actually a better athletic performer across the board and has more student-athletes....This comment is funny[/b]

Northwestern has everything that it needs or wants in Big Ten membership regarding money, athletics, prestige, and research. [b]Wouldn't go for it, why lose conference payout[/b]

That leaves Johns Hopkins from your list and Carnegie Mellon from mine. [b]Both Johns Hopkins and Carnegie Mellon are D-3; alumni and faculty would revolt if they spent the money to go D-1, don't care enough about sports.[/b][/quote]

The Ivy League is a sports league. None of these schools get anything from joining. OK, so maybe a little application volume boost (so what? What does that do? You think at the end of the day that's the most important item to these billion-dollar organizations? If you asked the presidents and boards of any or all of these institutions what their top 3 (or even 5) biggest items on their agenda or areas of focus were, NONE would mention anything having to do with undergraduate admissions "brand"). [/quote]

Maybe you are tired as I don't think that you realize that you are supporting my points. Regardless, I'll excuse your rudeness due to fatigue.[/quote]

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