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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Zero issue with level III kids being pulled in for advanced math with level iv kids, but if the teacher is being asked to instruct both groups in the same room at the same time, each of these groups of kids are only getting half the teachers' time, no?[/quote]

No because the kids brought in the room are expected to be able to understand the topics that the Teacher is teaching to the LLIV kids. So kids who are pulled into the LIV classroom for math are expected to be able to do math at that level. Advanced Math is the same math curriculum as the math taught in LIV.

The difference is that kids in Advanced Math who are not in LIV or LLIV are kids who have been identified as being ahead in math but not in LA, Science, or Social Studies. They are not thought to need the full LIV curriculum but only the math component.

Kids in LIII tend to be the kids who are seen to need some additional challenge but who are not in need of LIV services in all subjects, many times this means that they are on grade level in math and not ready for Advanced Math.

We know kids who started in Advanced Math in third and not Level III. They ended up in LIII and Advanced Math in fourth. We only know this because they were in DS's math group but not the LIII pull outs. Later they joined the LIII pull outs and were still in his math group.

The long and the short of it is kids who are pushed into a LIV classroom for math are in Advanced Math and taught the same math as the kids in LIV.[/quote]

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