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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It was a discovery for the Europeans!  You know, the ones that ultimately started the colonies which became the USA.[/quote]

"Columbus didn’t 'discover' America — he never set foot in North America. During four separate trips that started with the one in 1492, Columbus landed on various Caribbean islands  that are now the Bahamas as well as the island later called Hispaniola. He also explored the Central and South American coasts. But he didn’t reach North America, which, of course, was already inhabited by Native Americans, and he never thought he had found a new continent."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/10/14/christopher-columbus-3-things-you-think-he-did-that-he-didnt/

[quote=Anonymous]Because though flat- earthers still exists, the majority of the world knows the earth is round because of Christopher Columbus' documentation and discoveries.[/quote]

"Columbus didn’t set out to prove the earth was round. Forget those myths perpetuated by everyone from Washington Irving to Bugs Bunny. There was no need for Columbus to debunk the flat-earthers—the ancient Greeks had already done so. As early as the sixth century B.C., the Greek mathematician Pythagoras surmised the world was round, and two centuries later Aristotle backed him up with astronomical observations. By 1492 most educated people knew the planet was not shaped like a pancake."

https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-christopher-columbus

[quote=Anonymous]Also, please know that just like many civilizations, Indigenous people were no saints either.  They fought and killed over land and committed many other atrocities just like the Romans, the barbarians, the chinese, african civilizations, the indians, and just about every civilization ever.   So if CC can't be celebrated, then everyone is guilty.  We should celebrate no one.[/quote]

Maybe I was sick the day they taught history in history class, but haven't there been more than a few historical figures who never "fought and killed over land and committed many other atrocities"? Let's celebrate some of them instead! Not some greedy tyrant whose rule was so brutal and terrible that even Inquisition-era Spain stripped him of his governorship and had him arrested.[/quote]

Don't bother - this thread is inhabited by people who are either shockingly ignorant or deliberately trolling, so there is no point in keeping it going.[/quote]

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