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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe HYS grads are just turning away from soul-crushing stints in Big Law and going on to get PhDs (needed to become a professor at top law schools - most of whom have JDs from HYS) or going in house right away at tech start ups that offered greater deferred compensation. In any event, COVID-times make the job numbers everywhere wonky.[/quote]

I think that's more like it. A Harvard Law grad will either be much pickier about their jobs, and/or want a career in research or education that does not come with a large salary. I don't think Obama made that much money before becoming President :-)[/quote]

No. His wife also worked briefly, dipped feet in healthcare and U Chicago’s programs and then stayed home to support his career. They weren’t in it for money but worked out well in the end and they made lots of money after young retirement[/quote]

Michelle was at Sidley Austin when they met (he was a summer associate) and then went on to a cushy VP job at the UChicago Health Center. She wasn’t exactly working for peanuts.  Both of them would have qualified as employed by ATL standards.

The interesting thing is that these schools used to be at the top of the ATL rankings. The methodology has r changed, the schools have. The ATL analysis states that Yale/Harvard/Stanford appear to have chosen a different path. That’s fine, but the argument is often made here that these schools are best for those who want BigLaw jobs. In fact, it’s been argued that your chances at top dollar legal employment is slim if you go to any school below the USNWR top 14. This data shows that this is increasingly not true. [/quote]
Just to clarify, the "top 10" in this ATL ranking are still all US News T14 schools, except WashU and Vandy, which are ranked 16 and 17 in US News, not exactly far off.  The unusual aspect about this ATL ranking is HYS falling out of its top 10.[/quote]

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