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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have successfully hired from UMGC for project management and IT, mostly cyber. Many, not all, are former military. We also hire from community college for cyber, very low level cyber. [/quote] Someone started a thread a few days ago about a coding skills verification test, showing that, for example, UVA alumni who took the test had great results. It would be interesting to develop a collection of “work readiness” tests, including a general teachability tests. Get data for all 4 million U.S. high school graduates, including high school grades, standardized test scores, a family support score, and a general physical and mental health score. Five years later, give the work readiness tests to all 4 million people in that group. My guess would that, when the UoP is competing head to head with regular bachelor’s degrees programs, the UofP gets a wildly different group of incoming kids. My guess would be that, everything else held constant, the very best schools, through their own efforts, add about 50 percent to absoute employability, relative to the worst accredited nonprofit schools (example: really weak community colleges) for readily teachable technical skills and 20 percent for other skills, and that most of the rest of the gap comes from the intelligence, health, academic preparedness and family support level of the incoming kids. My prediction would be that a UofP type school probably does 5 percent or 10 percent worse at adding to preparedness than the worst in-person accredited nonprofit schools. But it’s possible that a UofP type school might look a lot better in comparisons of its performance relative to the performance of nonprofit, fairly selective programs that suddenly went online due to COVID. From the what my son describes his experience as a freshman, at a semi-locked-down in-person program, engagement was pretty low. Some kids simply drifted away. The streaming systems at his high school and university have worked well, but I could imagine some really classy but broke colleges are way behind online degree mills in terms of tech. So, it will be interesting to see if the real competition over the next few years will be between kids who went to better and worse colleges, or simply between kids who stayed engaged enough to meet class requirements, whether the classes were any good or not. [/quote]
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