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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]The Thursday meeting is about GT education.  That is the kids that get selected for magnets and stuff--even if they don't accept it.[/b]

09:32 is trying to sneak in a discussion about [b]kids in the regular classroom [/b]claiming it is the "real GT."

[b]I don't think it is the real GT.[/b]  It may be a real issue but it isn't "real GT."  Is 09:32 trying to get MCPS to accept that anyone who does not get selected for GT programs outside the schools if gifted?  [/quote]

There are lots and lots of kids who apply to magnets who are not accepted and many, many of those who are not accepted are highly-able and qualified to perform at the magnet level.  The TPMS magnet accepts 125 kids (25 slots reserved for in-boundary students).  This year, 800+ applied.  Do you really think that ALL of those not accepted are not qualified?  How about those who tested, on the entrance exam, one point below the cutoff?  How about kids from a given school, from which there were too many applicants (TPMS has said publicly that they don't want to take too many applicants from one school)?  How about HGC kids who don't quite make it (ditto, they don't take too many HGC kids)?

The point is, in the regular classroom, especially in the eastern part of MoCo, there are lots of highly-able kids who NEED differentiation, who NEED the challenge of enriched instruction.  They need that as much as low-performing students need extra help - and under state law, they are entitled to it.[/quote]

Yes, there are highly able kids who are rotting in regular school.  There are gifted children who have to stay in the regular school because of a lack of seats or they chose not to go to a HGC/magnet.  But tomorrow's forum is on GT.  If we want to talk about GT kids left in the regular classroom for whatever reason--DIFFERENTIATION WONT CUT IT.  HOMOGENEOUS GROUPING WONT CUT IT-because there aren't enough of them in a given school.

For the students who come in well prepared from the eastern part or the western part of the counties, in school homogeneous grouping may work.  But that is another issue, right?[/quote]

But why can't you see that it's not all or nothing?  We need a comprehensive approach -- magnets for HG kids, differentiation for kids who need extra challenge in home schools, and grade skipping when appropriate.

Why can't you see that other people have needs and approaches that are different from yours?  This isn't about your single-minded, self-centered campaigns for your "student letter" or whatever you call it.  [/quote]

I see the PP's point.  You first try to argue about the definition of gifted then you turn around and want to talk about " differentiation for kids who need extra challenge in home schools."  What PP is saying is that the forum is for GT.  It might be good to keep on topic.  My kids need challenge in the regular classroom--with the Ver. 2.0 (Is that what you call the student letter?) and I'd like to have a forum dedicated to that topic alone.  There is a lot to discuss.  And please don't bring your name calling and personal attacks here--it just makes you seem like you don't have anything useful left to say.

Why did you go around trying to argue GT defined kids who came prepared well if you just wanted to advocate for extra challenges for some of 'em?  [/quote]

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