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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So we are supposed to explain the finer points of hypothetical state level laws on contraception? [/quote]

This isn't a hypothetical state law. The governor of Oklahoma is expected to sign legislation outlawing abortion at conception. What's so hard to understand? [/quote]

Im not the one asking for clarity on how it works. Maybe review the legislation?[/quote]

Dp- we don’t want people doing that. We don’t want people talking about that.
We don’t want women to notice we’re stripping them of their rights.[/quote]

Well, I got curious and looked it up.  There is no ban on contraceptives in Oklahoma. The abortion bill specifically excludes contraception and emergency contraception, which is a very early abortion. It also does not make abortion a criminal or civil offense, it just provides standing if someone chooses to sue you for it. This is not legal advice, and I recommend consulting your attorney.  [/quote]

“it just provides standing if someone chooses to sue you….”. Holy moly the word “just” is doing a lot of work!

This law is even better than criminalization.  A town only has a police force to catch criminals, but under the Oklahoma/Texas-style bans, every person in the entire town can police abortion.

Did someone overhear you advising your daughter about abortion? You can be sured for 10K by literally anyone.

Did your daughter’s abusive boyfriend hear about her pregnancy? He can sue her for 10K even if he’s not the Dad!

Did someone at school find out DD had an abortion? That person can sue her for 10K!  In fact, if word gets out on the grapevine, every kid at school could sue her.

These civil penalty abortion-prohibition laws leverage an entire community to police women seeking abortion and bankrupt them and anyone who is helping the woman in any way.

They are a terrible off-ramp to Gilead.  It’s so crazily authoritarian, I can’t even believe they’re passing, let alone likely to be upheld by SCOTUS because “the constitution doesn’t protect privacy and states should decide”[/quote]

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