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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So we are supposed to explain the finer points of hypothetical state level laws on contraception? [/quote] This isn't a hypothetical state law. The governor of Oklahoma is expected to sign legislation outlawing abortion at conception. What's so hard to understand? [/quote] Im not the one asking for clarity on how it works. Maybe review the legislation?[/quote] Dp- we don’t want people doing that. We don’t want people talking about that. We don’t want women to notice we’re stripping them of their rights.[/quote] Well, I got curious and looked it up. There is no ban on contraceptives in Oklahoma. The abortion bill specifically excludes contraception and emergency contraception, which is a very early abortion. It also does not make abortion a criminal or civil offense, it just provides standing if someone chooses to sue you for it. This is not legal advice, and I recommend consulting your attorney. [/quote] So an abusive husband/partner might sue his wife/partner?[/quote] Has this happened yet in Texas? And how would the police prove that a woman has obtained an abortion? I can't see how this law would actually work in practice unless someone is actually going after an abortion provider. [/quote] Yeah, this seems like symbolic legislation more than anything. A smart woman would just not tell anyone, book a "work trip," and go out of state for an abortion. Done and done. [/quote]What happens if the state gets access to your browsing data? I'm not tech savvy myself, but was listening to an interview with an internet privacy expert/advocate and she was saying that law enforcement could flag women searching anything abortion related.[/quote] Can states bring suits against citizens? An attorney would need to weigh in. Looking at the law, it isnt clear why law enforcement would be involved in hunting candidates for civil litigation suits, if it is even a thing that states sue citizens for things like this. It appears to me, a layman, to be a way for fathers to gain some control over a decision for when to abort. Otherwise, the bill would have an enforcement mechanism, and the only one is has is allowing people to sue women for abortions. [/quote]
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