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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]because attending an elite private college can have a tremendous positive impact on the lives of low-income, immigrant and minority students. The same experience doesn't affect the outcome for rich white men.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/does-it-matter-where-you-go-college/577816/

I learned in a talk recently that students who apply to elite colleges end up doing as well as those who actually attend them. [/quote]

I’m not following. You indicate that merely apply to an elite college provides the equally benefit to attending. So why should they expand admission if simply applying results in equal benefits? [/quote]

Granted, I did bring up two different points. One (that URM and low-income students end up better off after attending elite private colleges while there is little difference for wealthy white males) is supported by the article I included.

I somewhat rashly included the other point, that people who simply apply to competitive colleges do as well as if they'd attended the same colleges. I learned this in a talk I went to, and I don't have at my fingertips the data to back it up. And it seems to contradict the first point a little. I'll look for that data, or maybe someone else can provide it? [/quote]

Yes, there was a study indicating that kids/families who seek out gifted schools based on lottery tend to do just as well whether they get in or not. That it is the ambition that leads them to apply for gifted programs that leads to good outcomes. [/quote]

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