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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no need for a booster because the booster doesn't protect against Omicron. The regular vaccines do protect against severe illness.
I don't see what difference it makes if there's a vaccine mandate. The kids who are vaccinated won't get very sick if they get Omicron. DD's roommate got Omicron, and DD didn't get it, tested five times and always negative. 
Covid is no longer a deadly disease. It's like the annual flu or a bad cold. Get vaccinated, but forget about it. [/quote]

This is false in so many aspects.  The booster helps to prevent omicron and decreases chances of serious illness.  Most hospitalized now (omicron age) are unvaccinated.  The booster also  helps mitigate the severity of other covid strains and decrease transmission.  Covid cannot be dismissed like cold/flu. There are many factors: strain, individual risk factors,  vaccination (including booster). Please don't make false assessments. [/quote]

If you are so sure of your "facts" please post studies that prove this. Please.

I've read a lot of studies, and no, neither the current vaccines nor boosters protect you from infection with Omicron. My entire family and many of my friends and neighbors got Omicron, and all are vaccinated, and many are boosted.

It's true that the vaccines do prevent severe illness. And it's also true that most of the people hospitalized for covid are not vaccinated (morons!)

The boosters do increase antibody levels, but it's not clear that they add more protection from severe illness than the initial vaccines do. There is very scant evidence supporting boosters, but they were approved because of politics, not science. 
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Boosters DO prevent Omicron transmission.

Here's the study, knock yourself out https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.27.21268278v1.full.pdf

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Just because there's a correlation doesn't necessarily mean cause and effect.

I feel like certain wanton behaviors often go hand in hand with the anti-vaxxer mentality, i.e., lack of social distancing and masking.  [/quote]

You should read the statistical analysis section.  Believe it or not, the people carrying out mulitvariate regression analyses and controlling for multiple factors (age, sex, household clustering) for this study actually understand the difference between correlation and causation.  [/quote]

It says "The estimates are adjusted for age and sex of the primary case, age and sex of the potential secondary case, and size of the household."

So, they adjusted for age, sex, size of household.

That doesn't factor in wanton anti-vaxxer behaviors (lack of social distancing, lack of masking).

Furthermore, it states:  "Recently, self testing kits have become widely available for purchase in Denmark. This could influence the results, for instance if individuals that self-test at home refrain from also being tested in public testing facilities, meaning that their test results are not registered in the national databases."

Another anti-vaxxer behavior seems to be lack of home testing.  Meaning, lack of unreported testing.

And finally, the author expresses my exact concern with the data in the section addressing biases.  Here you go:

"There are likely underlying behavioural drivers for an individual being unvaccinated, which are likely to confound with other risky behaviours that might be expected to increase both transmission and susceptibility to infection (e.g. poor use of face masks, reduced attention to hygiene). The use of registry data limits our inference to associations between transmission/susceptibility and vaccination status of individuals, where part of the association is due to general characteristics of the individuals themselves rather than their vaccination status."

I think you are the one who didn't read this![/quote]

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