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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=takoma]First, it an't rape if it's consensual -- who is forced to go to PP?

Second, I may have missed something, but is there anything in the article that says the PP ultrasound is the transvaginal kind?  It is sort of implied, but the wording studiously avoids saying so.  As one of the comments says, that's a pivotal distinction.[/quote]

First, the point is that it's apparently already a standard procedure.  If I were about to have an abortion, I'd certainly want the doctor to determine the gestational age of the fetus so that he/she could perform the appropriate procedure  and determine if there are any special circumstances, such as an ectopic pregnancy.  Who wouldn't consent to that?  The ultrasound, which PP itself admittedly performs before every abortion, is for the mother's safety, so the cries of "rape" are ridiculous.

Second, the VA bill doesn't say anything about transvaginal ultrasounds, either.  The type of ultrasound used would depend on how far along the pregnancy is, as I understand it, and that would be true with our without the law.

Bottom line is that nobody is "raping" anybody.  What people are really objecting to, I think,  is that women have to be given the OPTION of seeing the results of the ultrasound under the bill, which is designed to ensure "informed" consent.  Since when is information a bad thing?  If hearing that little heartbeat or seeing that little head on the sonogram changes some minds, why is that a bad thing?[/quote]

As I have posted elsewhere, I wrote to VA delegate Bob Marshall to complain about the vaginal wanding and he did not deny it.  The relevant part of his reply is here:

"Secondly, HB 462, is not my legislation though I did vote in favor of it.  It is sponsored by Delegate Kathy Byron.

The issue is one of women's safety.  HB 462 will add ultrasound to the informed consent requirements in Virginia.  Planned Parenthood requires ultrasound to date pregnancy because it is the standard of care to ensure the correct procedure is done.  For example if a woman has an ectopic pregnancy or is further along in her pregnancy that she first thought she cannot be given RU-486 because it would be life threatening.  Below is a quote from a Planned Parenthood hotline with regard to their requirements for an abortion procedure.  All abortions require an ultrasound and a pill abortion requires two[b] trans vaginal ultrasounds[/b], one before the pill is given and one later.  Consent for the ultrasound is required to obtain an abortion.  As a result, this legislation would not require anything more invasive that what is already done but would only require that all other clinics meet this same standard of care and that the woman be offered the opportunity to view the ultrasound." 
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