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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.[/quote]

It is really disturbing that a 25 year old’s first instinct when faced with a troubling situation was to text her mother.  What has happened to this generation?

Also, it’s creepy and gross but not a crime to film in public.  Calling the police was not the right advice.[/quote]

Meh, not OP but I don't think it's disturbing. I'm 46, but in my 20s I had many strange men make me nervous in public. Women are conditioned to not rankle men or make them uncomfortable so I would tolerate it - try to not rock the boat - then after the encounter I'd always regret it. I used to feel horrible about it until social media in the last 10 years introduced me to a ton of feminists who would call out and label this behavior as totally normal survival skills.

I'd love to think a 25 year old woman would go over and call these guys out - but in the moment it's normal to freeze. [/quote]
I don’t think it’s disturbing that they didn’t confront the men. Clearly that is not usually going to be your safest bet. But it is a bit disturbing that they didn’t go over to staff or call the police themselves first. They aren’t 17, they are 25. [/quote]

NP. And at 25 they likely, unfortunately, know that confronting these men could lead to the men waiting in the parking lot to follow them when they leave.

It's appalling that so many posters here are saying it's "disturbing" etc. that the young women did not know what to do in a moment of stress and confusion. I guess these PPs are always perfectly composed and ready to engage with creeps, and have no concerns about what else could happen afterward.

As a more reasonable PP noted, it's easy to freeze in the moment. The adult DD must have a good relationship with her mom, to contact mom in that moment. People need to stop piling on as if it's the DD and not the creeps who were in the wrong. These guys could be filming to do who knows what with the images. A friend's adult DD ended up with her face used by someone on Facebook as their own picture. People do strange and potentially damaging things with images now, as the DD surely knows. Two men filming like that probably had something other than Facebook face-stealing in mind, too. At a minimum they were enjoying the fact the DD was sitting there getting creeped out. They knew they were making her uncomfortable in that moment and got off on it.

The barista deserves not only a tip, OP, but also please advise your DD to contact the manager of that Starbucks ASAP and heap praise and thanks on that barista (even if she doesn't know the barista's name). Lots of praise. It benefits the wonderful barista and will encourage others who work there to remember this and be ready to help when things like this happen. [/quote]

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