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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You should let the biker come to a stop at the sign. They are coming up to an intersection and have no obligation to stop before reaching the sign. It’s like merging lanes, and you need the lane to be clear.
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I’m not sure if I was clear in my explanation about when/where the man on the bike was when it happened. Maybe I didn’t do a go job of explaining it.

If you imagine pointing straight ahead through the intersection as 12 o’clock, and 3 o’clock as a completed right turn, I was at about 1:30 or so. I had been at the stop sign, stopped, waited on the car in front of me, and had then started making the turn about was not quite halfway through the turn when the man on the bicycle came up from behind me (he was going much faster than me because I was pulling into a turn from being stopped, and he was pedaling faster than me.

It’s pretty clear to me that he made no stop for the stop sign at all, otherwise there was no possibility he could’ve stopped and then accelerated again so quickly. So he must not have stopped at all and instead just tried to blow past me on the right side.

We didn’t both start out stopped at the stop sign together and begin moving forward at the same time with me turning into him. He was definitely coming up from behind me at a faster speed and definitely didn’t stop at the sign.

I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear the first time I explained it.

And are you absolutely certain that bikes do not have to stop at stop signs when other cars around? Because that seems incorrect to me. But I don’t have any law to cite it. [/quote]

OP, are you looking for validation that the bicyclist should have stopped at the stop sign? Yes, the bicyclist should have stopped - or at least stopped as much as drivers stop, which is at best a slow roll.

However, if you had been turning from the correct position, all the way to the right at the curb, he wouldn't have been able to come up on your right side.

What you're describing is a right-hook crash, which can kill people on bicycles. In general, as a driver, you should move to the right and make sure there's nobody coming up behind you when you're turning right. In general, as a bicyclist, you should try to put yourself in a position where drivers are less likely to turn across your path - i.e., take the lane.

Incidentally, I've been in a few almost right-hook-crashes as a driver, where a driver in a lane to the left of me decided to turn right in front of my path. My awareness of right-hook crashes, from bicycling, helped me avoid the crash.[/quote]

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