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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wholeheartedly agree with those who suggested that the social/independance goals before K are just as important if not more so that the "reading" level.  My oldest, now in 4th was reading chapter books before K.  He just picked up reading, words have always been his thing.   Math, I think he was above grade level too.  Socially, he was probably a bit behind, in my opinion.  He did score very highly on his CogAt and Naglieri and was in pool.  That said, even in 2nd grade, his social readiness/attention were still below grade level.  Despite VERY high test scores, and grades to match, he was not found eligible on the first round of AAP, or on appeal (we did not take him for extra testing).  After talking with the teacher and guidance counselor, they both felt he needed another year to mature.  So, though the maturity/social aspect is supposedly not part of the AAP process, I can tell you, it definitely can cloud the process.

Take all this with a grain of salt, since you did not ask about AAP.  I think for K (as a former elementary music teacher) teaching independence, letters, (letter sounds help if you get to it) will more than suffice.  My middle guy is in K too now, and just had these skills listed in the prior sentence (he was not an early reader like his brother), and is doing great.

PS-I hope the person who mentioned Harry Potter meant the 3rd graders were reading that.  I am all about challenging early readers, but I cannot imagine any Kindergartener being emotionally ready for the intensity of those books![/quote]

[list]Nope, K and First!  By the mid to end of first grade[b] I have had several parents tell me their children have finished the entire series. [/b] I agree it is not age appropriate reading material.  I also question their comprehension.  However the parents have assured me they quized their children extensively and they were understanding what they were reading.  The parents even said they required their children to read the books before seeing the movies. I find it really hard to believe but I have heard it at least 5 times.[/quote]

Ding, ding, ding!!! THe [b][i]parents[/b][b][/i] are telling you that :roll:. My son is in a very strong Arlington K right now.  I am amazed at what he is doing now compared to what he was doing at the beginning of the year.  He went to a Montesorri school and would have been full-on reading if we kept him there the final year--but instead we moved him into a play-based preschool when we moved.  All of the kids were relatively around the same level upon entering K this year.  I go in for mornign reading with him a few mornings a week so I see firsthand.  Nobody was reading Harry Potter books.  One boy was a very advanced reader--all the product of his particular preschool ( and I think his innate intelligence as well).  The majority of other kids could recognize a few words, but were starting with the 3 word sentence type books.  Now my son has progressed to several sentences on a page and has an explosion in both handwriting skills and reading comprehension...he is identifying sentences in chapter books we read to him.  This is from no extra work on our part.  I credit the schoool. We do the basics and lots of reading at home. He was always strong in math, but I think that is inherited (and ummizoomi :)).

There is no correlation between age of onset of reading and future academic success/intelligence.  It will even out.  I would not want my kid 'tracked' like some of these pp's say FCPS does at such a young age.  People need to chill the h*ll out.[/quote]

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