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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Not vegan.  But I am (mostly) vegetarian.  I’ll eat meat if we have dinner with friends, for example.  Vegan just requires so much substitution, and those substitutes aren’t great for you.

My compromise  -  We eat a plant based diet.  I buy eggs directly from a friend with backyard chickens who are treated like pets.  I get milk from a cruelty free dairy farm.   I just could not continue eating meat knowing what I now know about how the animals are treated.  I felt like I was ingesting their suffering.  [/quote]

Cruelty-free dairy does not exist. There is nothing ethical or humane about forced impregnation, castration, separation of mother and baby, and years of being hooked up to devices for milking.

https://www.iamgoingvegan.com/cruelty-free-milk-and-cheese/#:~:text=The%20best%20cruelty%2Dfree%20certifications,separation%20of%20mother%20and%20calf.[/quote]

I was hooked up to a milking device almost daily for 3 years.  It wasn’t so bad.  Heck, if it was my only job, I’d do it for life.  The good dairies also don’t separate the calves at a very young age.  At some point the calves start to transition to grass and then the mother transitions to milking.  [/quote]

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