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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That’s the only data I trust at USNWR.  Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools,  and has been an ongoing concern for decades. [/quote]

Sooo....the least informed aspect of the data is what you trust?  The gut feeling of admin about schools -many of which they've barely heard of (and can be influenced by a bottle of hot sauce).   You trust that over research expenditures, faculty accomplishments, student-teacher ratios, students graduating salaries, 6 yr graduation rates etc.    Sure things like yield rates and number of applications can be manipulated through marketing but a ton of other things can't.[/quote]

True, HYSP they'll always have the "reputation." They'll always come out on top in these rankings.

I know one school that's been high on the "up and coming" list for more than 25 years, but it's never up and come because of the solid reputational rankings of these big brand names in education.[/quote]

USNWR's approach has kind of cemented things in place at the top.  The biggest shakeup recently was with the Pell grant stuff, but that starts impacting around 20.

Before that, the biggest shakeups were from the schools that figured out how to kind of game the rankings better than other schools.  Some of those have become cemented into the top level where they didn't really play before.[/quote]

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