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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Call me crazy, but I think the goal might be increased diversity, equity, and inclusion.[/quote]

Yeah, kinda hard to believe that when we just had Fairfax County go on a crusade to target Thomas Jefferson HS on "diversity, equity, and inclusion" grounds for having too many Asians.

It is one thing to say "nobody should be excluded," which is an idea pretty much everyone would support.

When you insist the system has to be gamed to make sure certain groups are advanced, regardless of the actual merit of the individuals in question is when you get into trouble.... and that is what the entire modern D&I effort is about.

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I'm confused.  Some are arguing that the movement is designed, somehow, to only "target" white people.  But you appear to be arguing that is not true.  That in fact....it is being used to increase representation of all demographics.  That is exactly the point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-diversity-admissions/2021/06/23/26bb7960-d44b-11eb-ae54-515e2f63d37d_story.html
"Prestigious magnet school Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology will welcome the most diverse class of students in recent school history next fall, according to data released Wednesday by Fairfax County Public Schools.

The class will include more Black and Hispanic students than any class admitted in the past four years. It will include fewer Asian students, who have historically made up the vast majority of admitted students, and a larger percentage of female students.

But the biggest jump came in admission offers to economically disadvantaged students, meaning students who qualify for free or reduced-price school meals. In previous years, these students accounted for 2 percent or fewer of all children offered spots at Thomas Jefferson, known as TJ. This year, 25 percent of all students receiving offers are economically disadvantaged, according to Fairfax data."[/quote]

Holy verbal gymnastics.

If you lump all Asians together as one group then you can claim successfully excluding qualified Asians in favor of less qualified students of other races results in more "diversity," but Asians are 60% of the world's population and represent hundreds of distinct cultures, languages, etc.

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I agree with you on the fundamental point that treating all Asians as a homogenous group is not ideal.

But there is a reason the concept has evolved beyond diversity to include equity and inclusion.  I think the point is that other populations are "less qualified" for a reason that has nothing to do with their skill or aptitude.  Including them in the school and the opportunities it provides helps to remedy that.[/quote]

There is nothing equitable about trying to game the system to exclude more qualified students/applicants/candidates in favor of less qualified ones on the basis of race.

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Actually that is what equity means and it is what makes it distinct from equality.  You may not agree that equity should be a goal, but it is exactly what you describe.

https://www.naceweb.org/about-us/equity-definition/
The term “equity” refers to fairness and justice and is distinguished from equality: Whereas equality means providing the same to all, equity means recognizing that we do not all start from the same place and must acknowledge and make adjustments to imbalances. The process is ongoing, requiring us to identify and overcome intentional and unintentional barriers arising from bias or systemic structures.

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:roll:

...and of course we get to decide who needs which "adjustment" based on their race.  If their skin is dark they must be disadvantaged.  If their skin is white (or Asian) they must be advantaged.

The whole thing is designed to sound reasonable to a child.

If the system were based on parental income, education level, etc etc, few would complain.  Of course any kind of a color-blind solution is anathema to the diversity crowd.

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