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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]and the we attacked libya...wtf?[/quote]

Actually, in the case of Lybia, the rebels asked for international help. I'm not aware that anyone was seriously rebelling inside Iraq  when we took advantage of 9/11 to invade it as part of a neo-con plan laid out in the mid 1990s entitled "Project for the New American Century."[/quote]I have been thinking this morning what the Arab spring might have meant for Iraq if we had never invaded.  Back before we invaded, I thought Iraq had more of the qualities that could lead to democracy than most Arab nations - with a sizable educated middle class, some industry, water, and a government that while not actually secular (Sunnis were favored) at least pretended to be secular.  While Saddam's brutality and iron grasp on the political system can't be denied, on the other hand, this is a society that had the human resources necessary to build a civil society that could have supported an effective uprising.  Maybe Saddam, like Assad in Syria, would have brutally repressed the protests but on the other hand, Gaddafi, also a brutal and wily dictator is now gone.  But, I'm afraid that probably a lot of the people who could have been the backbone of an Arab spring in Iraq have left the country.  I am not confident at all that democracy will thrive there and the destruction of the middle classes through the war and the subsequent chaos under the occupation will partially be to blame.[/quote]

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