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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]African American gun ownership is important and defunding will likely hurt more than help this community. We need strong reforms to the police to ensure they are held accountable.[/quote]

Gun ownership is what is driving all this violence. Until I moved here, I had absolutely no idea how much power the nra has in the AA community. But clearly they’ve got a lot of members and supporters in DC based on the number of shootings. [/quote]
Hate-filled ragers are driving violence, not the weapons. Duh.[/quote]

Funny how societies like Canada which effectively ban handguns have almost no handgun violence!

How does that work, do you think?  Are Canadians just morally superior to Americans or do you think their gun laws are better?[/quote]

Switzerland has no gun violence either and everybody has guns.

Your argument is not valid.

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Cite?

Because I happen to know that European gun ordinances are very strict. Almost no one has a gun. [/quote]

Apparently you do not know as much about Europe as you think you do. Switzerland is famous for it liberal gun laws. Everybody has a gun. Everybody is trained in firearms as well, so that helps. But stop quoting made up Euro standards.[/quote]

The problem with a lot of these anti-gun commenters in this thread is that they know enough to have an opinion, but not enough to have an educated opinion.  Switzerland’s gun laws being conflated with Europe’s is an example. Another is their habit of conflating “semi-automatic” with “automatic” and not knowing the difference between cartridges and bullets.

You would think people would be a little more cautious about arguing about an issue when they can’t even get the basic facts straight.[/quote]

They are making an emotional argument and not a logical or fact based argument. Emotions are powerful and often time cloud thinking. Humans were designed that way. [/quote]

I think it’s deeper than that actually.

It’s a combination of their awareness of their own lack of self control, AND projection.

I know many liberals and progressives who oppose gun ownership because they themselves are prone to fits of extreme rage, often manifest in violent outbursts. On many occasions I’ve heard them flippantly say things like [i]“If I had a gun I would’ve shot him/her/them right then and there!” [/i]. And they project that mindset onto everyone else - because remember- they are [i]normal[/i], as they see themselves. Not potentially violent yet sort of in control psychos. So they assume everyone else feels the same rage they do when someone cuts them off in traffic or has a yard sign they don’t like. And they’re self-aware enough to know if they DID have a gun, they’d use it the next time they got mad. Therefore they choose not to own a gun. And they also want to make sure no one else can either. Because everyone else must be as potentially violent as them..... right?

Freud understood what drives hoplophobes a century ago. He was correct then, and he’s still correct now. [/quote]

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