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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mouthing or biting?

It is normal. If it bites YOU say “ow” loudly and turn your back on it to teach it that disengagement is a consequence. Or a stern “no.”[/quote]

Biting.  Broken skin (blood). Bruising.  We do stern Nos.  We do the pennies in a shaker can. We say Ouch and turn away and she will just attack your back or shirt, or whatever.[/quote]

Biting that breaks skin is not the same thing and I don’t think the pennies in a can are a good idea. That’s more to shock/distract away from a problematic behavior. Biting that breaks skin means fear or aggression and the penny can will make that worse. The yelping and turning is to teach a puppy who is mouthing during play that it ends the game. Again, not the same thing. You need a private trainer ASAP. Not puppy class. [/quote]

Thank you for this.  I'll add some more detail on the breaking of the skin.  For example, the puppy got me on that loose skin between the thumb and pointer finger.  That drew blood.  She also got my wife on the wrist and it drew blood.  The teeth are sharp as you very well know.  I said BITING because I didn't want the PP thinking it was just gentle mouthing. It's more than that. I also want to say that I feel like there is zero aggression, just play BITING. She isn't bothered when I put my hand in her dog dish.  She eats out of my hand nicely. I can give and take bones/toys away from her.  No aggression or posturing whatsoever. Just constant latching on to us with her teeth. Biting sleeves, socks, pants, etc.  Sometimes, she'll be sitting on our lap nicely and then just latch onto our thigh.[/quote]

For play biting, the sharp yelp and turn around worked for me. It's a really sharp, very high pitched yelp, and then you turn away and sulk. It feels ridiculous but it works well. I think the yelp is key though. It has to be shocking to the puppy and clearly indicate that you were hurt (you weren't, but any time teeth touch skin). Puppy just needs to learn that teeth are poison to skin.

If you're sitting on the couch and the puppy randomly bites you, I wonder if the puppy wasn't asking for attention before that. Your responses to the biting have varied widely, so at this point you may have trained the puppy to bite to get a reaction of some kind from you. The whole family needs to get really, really consistent on the loud yelp and turn away plan. [/quote]

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