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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Full pay, 35 ACT, 4.6 wgpa, 8 APs with 5s, 4 more APs this senior year, varsity athlete including captain, ECs with leadership,  deferred at U of MI

In at some lower tier schools with generous merit aid [/quote]

[b]I'm not sure why people think APs help? I'm a professor and at my (very good) university they have really started frowning on APs, first because they don't believe it really indicates student quality or prepares them well for college, and second because it steals tuition revenue away from our lower level, more profitable classes.[/quote]

If you are a professor you probably know that admissions officers at highly competitive universities want students that have taken the most challenging schedule possible, which at most HS are AP classes.

Their value beyond admissions is debatable, of course.[/quote][/b]

Right-- my child also took AP classes and tests and provided that info to U of MI for purposes of admission, not to knock down the cost of college. They were the most challenging level classes available.

Aren't those the classes kids are supposed to take to get into these competitive schools?  I'm supposed to tell my kid-- "no, don't take AP classes-- colleges hate to take kids that take AP classes because it is lost revenue and doesn't really, really prepare you for college, only sort of."  Damned if you do, damned if you don't right?  If colleges don't want to give credit for AP classes, why don't they just stop doing that?

(BTW-- He is also deferred-- similar stats and varsity athlete captain.  Hope both our kids get in!)[/quote]

Yes, you are confusing the AP tests with the courses taken.  You should take as many AP courses as you can.  Then you should take as many tests as you can and submit with high grades (4,5) to the admissions offices. The tests with high scores will influence and admissions offices but each school varies as to whether or not they will take the AP test and grade and grant the student college credit for same.  Especially in math, the elite colleges often will ask the student to start over again with calculus just to ensure that everyone is on the same footing.  Or they will require testing in order to opt out.[/quote]

On a zoom earlier this year, a college admissions director said that the results of AP exams would be given more weight if a student applied with no standardized test scores. Makes sense — it’s one way to weigh the rigor of the education the HS provided. [/quote]

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