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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous]regardless, there is NOTHING you can do to stop the increase in CO2.  even if the USA produced ZERO CO2, the total amount would still increase greatly because of the growth in the developing world.  The atmosphere is connected.

So if the effects are material and they are negative, we will have to engineer our way around it.[/quote]
I someone arguing that we shouldn't?

Or are you arguing that we shouldn't do anything about CO2 since we have an engineering problem anyway?[/quote]

I am arguing that (1) we cannot stop global warming unilaterally because our use of CO2 is not going to be the deciding factor.  Even if cut emissions to ZERO the global emissions will still increase. So why kill ourselves economically?
(2) pragmatically, if there are negative consequences, it is going to be an engineering problem.[/quote]

UNILATERALLY?  Who expects the US to go it alone?  191 countries signed the Kyoto protocol.  Here are the nations who have not:

Andorra
Afghanistan
South Sudan
United States

So are you figuring that it is hopeless until Andorra jumps on board, or are you just talking out your ass?[/quote]

Are any of China, India or Brazil considered Annex countries under Kyoto?  Please correct me if I am wrong.  If you do not include them, then essentially it is unilateral, since that is where the growth in CO2 takes place.  Again, if the US had zero CO2 emissions, global emissions still increase Kyoto or not.  Pointless.[/quote]

So let me get this right.  Currently we generate 3x what China does per person, and we generate 12 x what India does per capita.  And so the fair thing is to expect everyone to cut equally.[/quote]

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