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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Read [u]Collapse[/u] by Jared Diamond, and tremble...

We are very likely setting ourselves up for a perfect storm of environmental  and resource problems that will rival in importance the Plague in the 14th century.

We could take care of this ridiculous debt non-issue by making older Americans retire on a schedule that is more in line with their increased life expectancy and passing a few laws to reform the perverse incentives in our health care system, along with restraining our military expenditures. The debt is insignificant by comparison.[/quote]

Collapse if we ignore the debt is a certainty.   Collapse due to environmental issues is for the most part baseless speculation.[/quote]

Look at the damage one little hurricane can cause our economy, even when it hits one of our poorest states.  El Nino and la Lina are two examples of relatively small climate changes that cause great financial impact.  Permanent change in the global climate is a big deal.  We have lots of data on how it hurts an economy.[/quote]

and there is lots of data about how warmer societies tend to prosper more as well.  the biggest effects of global warming, if they are adverse, will have to be addressed through engineering solutions.  And yeah, if sea levels rise it might get damn expensive.[/quote]

The idea that engineering is a savior is one big red herring. Wanting a tech solution does not make it so. [/quote]

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