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[quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=jsteele]Do you support the Cubans launching remote-controlled drones which attempt to fire missiles at Posada? Or, should the Cuban government continue exercise legal avenues in an attempt to gain custody of him?  Since the US is sheltering a terrorist, can Cuba legally attack the US? Perhaps invade and occupy us the way that we have Afghanistan?[/quote]
That's a pretty big shift in argument. I'm not saying that you don't have a point here; it just isn't nearly the one you started with.

I'll answer the question in steps, and I'll assume that all you've said is true (and I have no reason to doubt you). I think they have the moral right to assassinate him here, assuming that he's still a danger. I think the method is irrelevant to the degree that it doesn't cause additional death or significant property damage. (If it does, things start to get fuzzy, but I wouldn't say that no loss of life is acceptable.) In our reality, of course they shouldn't, b/c it will be more trouble than it's worth.

[quote=jsteele]I agree with you that short of arresting al-Awlaki, it would be impossible to give him full due process. But, there is a lot of ground between no due process and full due process...[S]eeking an indictment would at least provide a minimum of judicial involvement (though, as the saying goes, you can indict a ham sandwich).  Issuing international arrest warrants and other acts that show recognition of the legal system are also good steps. But, most importantly, there should be some sort of objective review of the evidence.[/quote]
I'd rather have that stuff. I was just pointing out that while it might be preferable, I don't think it would be any more legal. That is, I don't think there are degrees of legal.

[quote=jsteele]If the President believes that he should be able to kill American citizens, he should go to Congress and ask for a law that allows him to kill US citizens.[/quote]
I agree. Right now we have a need for action (in the opinion of many) and no good legal way to do it.

[quote=jsteele]Do you really want to live in a world in which a single person can put your name on a list and have you killed? George Bush was criticized for tapping phones without a warrant. Obama will kill you without a warrant. Are you comfortable with that?[/quote]
No. My point wasn't that it was A-OK. I was just pointing out that as things are - by the government's own fault, of course - the choice as I understand it was between an illegal action and no action.[/quote]

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