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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Don’t forget the scouts are being sued into oblivion because they were harboring and protecting pedophiles.  The demand to acknowledge god is also very problematic and exclusionary.  4H is a much better alternative as PP stated.[/quote]

Be careful. It matters most who the other families are not what the lead organization espouses, and the only people I know in 4H are religious homeschoolers. 
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Weird you think 4H is LESS conservative. You clearly don’t know my pack!

The national organization has been sued a lot for sheltering pedophiles, like most major organizations dealing with children (every church denomination, many boarding schools, regular school systems). It is disgusting but, again, telling the kid he can’t go camping with his friends seems a strange way to try to punish BSA headquarters. And now the safety rules for Scouts are the strongest I have seen - they are safer there than many places that haven’t had to reckon with the issue. [/quote]

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