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[quote=Anonymous]Thanks pps finally for some honest answers!   I am OP and wasnt so much looking to compare towns, tho I realize I mentioned them both up front.  Yes, DC is more concerned with academic/social/etc fit and opportunities than the city environment (and wont be a theatre student, as far as I can tell!)  For myself, I'd choose California for the weather (I have SAD).   
There being no visiting this Fall, I am trying to find other sources of info for DC about students.  The Yale college experience looks great to me (but I went to another Ivy that did not have any "house system" to speak of) and am looking for some personal perspectives.
BTW, as far as "gritty", these days people who cannot afford Bay Area housing live in cars and vans and campers along the border of Stanford's campus.

and while I loved Stanford's architecture the first time I saw it, the last time it appeared quite monotonous.  But then again, DC is a horse person and they have a Barn.  No idea what DC "wants to be when they grow up"--which is fine, but makes it a bit harder to choose a favorite school.  DC has LOVED SCHOOL ever since kindergarten.  Right now, APchemistry is fun and exciting, and DC watched the "debate" this week with their history teacher.  Also sold their first commissioned art drawing this summer during pandemic.  I am not trying to brag, just that this child is way more accomplished than either parent![/quote]

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