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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]50% of American high schoolers ha r straight As. DCPS is only giving As and Bs this year. They dropped Cs and below from the grading scale entirely. This is going to make very student even. [/quote] This will cause more colleges to require remedial classes to help students who got an "A" in English in HS but clearly can only write at a 5th grade level. Acceptances will become almost like a lottery, and admitting those students who cannot hack it in higher level institutions will hurt everyone.. These students should be going to community colleges for remedial classes, then transferring to 4 yr universities. By no means do I think that we should not help these kids, but pushing them into situations in which they are not prepared for is doing everyone a disservice. They should replace the SATs with something else, like maybe a test like cogat or something.[/quote] If only admissions officers had a way to know who the good students are without needing a test score... something like knowledge of the schools and the trustworthiness of the guidance recommendations, plus their instincts, which would come with the many years of organizational and personal experience that clearly none of them have... ...oh well, I guess they are now doomed to admit entire classes of unworthy idiots while the truly worthy are denied! /endsarcasm[/quote] for the UC system, falling back on known schools is just going to make the multitude of ongoing litigation over access and bias go worse for them [/quote] You think so? Why? Aren't they already forbidden from considering the racial balance objectives most competitive schools use? Seriously asking, not arguing your point, BTW.[/quote] NP. Prop 209 is up for a vote this fall. At least some UCs, Berkeley if I recall, already admitted to flouting the law against using race in the admission season that just finished. So that one is on its way out. I agree with the PP that this is going to make it harder, not easier, for a fair admission process, especially to the extent UCs seek socioeconomic diversity. There are high schools that don't even offer APs in CA, huge cost in GPA points. Reliance on tried-and-true rigorous high schools will increase, though those who played that high-pressure game are the ones who will win admission to UCs. Diamonds in the rough at poor high schools lose out, period. Lower GPA students who bit off more than they can chew for APs but can otherwise do well will need to look out of state.[/quote]
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