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I read threads from Recent Topics and have observed that there are more pro-opening-at-all-costs posters on the Soccer Forum than any other, even in Health and Medicine or Politics, where people battle it out every day.

Are any soccer parents concerned about balancing safety and continuing the sport? Do any understand that close contact will contribute to creating clusters?

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Gee.  We never thought of that.  See 90,000 other posts on this in these soccer threads.  The problem is that there is no "balance" in those who think that we cannot take any risks in resuming life because they may create clusters.  If you are back to school indoors, even with distancing, there should be no problem with playing outdoors.  In the first study examining the outbreaks in China, teams of researchers found 318 outbreaks of three or more people (clusters) between January 4 and February 11.  NOT ONE ORIGINATED OUTDOORS.  Is there no risk?  I don't think anybody can say there is no risk.  Is the risk low relative to multiple other risks in our daily lives outside of outdoor soccer?  Yes.  How about the risk for kids relative to others?  Yes, very very low compared to others involving an activity that is very very very low risk for adults in an activity where there has been no identified outbreak germinus.  So in balancing the incremental risk of this versus all else, do we stay in? [b] Are you nuts?[/b] [/quote]

No, I am research scientist with a background in virology and think your knee-jerk insult reveals you have an agenda that you cannot adequately defend.

First, it is highly unlikely that schools will reopen in the fall.
Second, Asian countries, including China, have far fewer sport activities per resident than the US, so your data cannot be transposed directly, but I do agree that outdoors with physical distancing is generally safe. 
Third, I am concerned about close contact, as I said, because close contact transfers viral particles whether it is indoors or outdoors. So practices that are physically distanced, in my opinion, are probably safe. But scrimmages and games, not so much. One driver can bring the child to practice, but stay in their car and avoid mingling. This parent distancing has been proposed for other activities, since we know the usual behavior of families on the sidelines. You have to think in a very granular, detail-oriented fashion here. It's not all-or-nothing.

I'd like to remind everyone that the virus will not go away without a vaccine. So far it has not mutated into a weaker strain. Mathematical models by epidemiologists ALL show a second (or multiple) surge of cases and deaths as soon as physical distancing measures are relaxed. Experts agree that this WILL happen. So please, plan accordingly.

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So, alleged research scientist, schools are reopening in the UK on June 1, and are reopening in Germany, Denmark and elsewhere.  They will open elsewhere in the US.  We will see what happens. I also agree there will be multiple waves.  I also agree the virus will not go away.  I do not assume there will be a successful vaccine ever, or certainly in the next two years.  So it is possible that we will need to go on living without one, and possible herd immunity is the route to success  And the key to that is living and taking appropriate precautions otherwise.  Plenty of research scientists see the balance that you find elusive.  Plenty of people anticipate a rise in cases when lockdown lifts.  We choose to strike a different balance between life and safety.  [/quote]

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