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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not great for DoD civs but the reality is members of the military should have first priority at CDCs on base.[/quote]

+1. As a full time working military spouse who finally got into a CDC, I am very supportive of this new policy. But I recognize it does suck for the families who will be bumped, especially in this area where day care is scarce and expensive. [/quote]

DoD civilians also work on base and for those overseas there is a lot of panic. We can't PCS without childcare. The answer should be adding spots, not displacing us - DoD actually has the largest subsidized child care program in the country. I'm really tired of being a 2nd class citizen in DoD. My job is to support the military and I work the same hours. [/quote]

But you’re not in the military. There’s big differences and the new policy recognizes that.

Yes in a perfect world, there would be enough spots for every unit there isn’t. [/quote]

And yet we deploy, PCS, and work in war zones... this will do wonders for retention.

It would be different if this was a policy going forward and we knew to expect it. To not grandfather in existing families in dumb. Maybe we could have spent money on increasing childcare instead of sucking DoD dry for a border wall. [/quote]

But again.. you are not military.  DoD civilians, generally speaking, move less and have more options than active duty military.  Some DoD civilians do those things you reference, but many, particularly in this area, do not, and use CDCs at length in this area. Then again, some military do too.

However, all that being said, I actually agree with you, and I am surprised some grandfathering was not employed. [/quote]

If grandfathering were employed it would take years to clean up the core problem which is that the waitlists are longer than the average PCS time for military families. Civilians are stable, they can find care elsewhere easily. Military cannot and need care immediately for relatively short periods of time.[/quote]

Are you from the DC area?  It is not easy to find care here.  Waitlists are months long. [/quote]

Military wait years for a spot depending on rank and priority.  We got offered a spot after four years and being on three different lists.  And, it was for an infant spot when our child was 4.  The purpose of the CDC is for military.  That's like saying civilians should also get all the other "perks" like health care, fitness center, discounts, etc.[/quote]

Actually, that’s not the purpose of the CDC.  It’s to provide quality childcare for DoD personnel with different priorities in order to meet the overall goal of the operation of the Department of Defense.  That is why DoD civilians and even contractors are eligible.  Also, the another poster’s ill-informed point- There are hundreds of mission essential civilian DoD employees.  In fact, when commands go into mission essential only status, some active duty members do not have to come to work, while some civilians do.  It depends on what you do and what is going on that is causing mission essential status only.

For example, you can’t tell me right now civilian physicians are less mission critical than many active duty jobs.

Also, people commenting don’t even seem to have read the policy. The complaint is not priority— it’s the fact that children of civilians can be kicked out with little notice, especially for the DC area and overseas locations where finding childcare on the economy is extraordinarily difficult.  Not to mention I think that’s a terrible thing to do to young children once they’re happy and adjusted and have formed bonds in a caretaking environment.

The most maddening part is the Esper stated the rationale being military members have less stability, move more, etc than civilians, but apparently civilians overseas with equally short assignments overseas were not considered.

Please don’t comment on things about which you know nothing. [/quote]

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