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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Starvation mode is real. 
Weight loss is much more than calories in calories out, it's more about what you eat and when.
I'm loosing weight on 1800 kcal daily without excersising (just walking 10k steps).
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It is calories in vs calories out.  But how do you really know what your calories out are?  It depends on your basal metabolic rate.  And starvation diets will make your BMR plummet.  [/quote]

You also don't really know what calories are in - really depends on individual metabolism of fat and carbs, also how good you chew your food, etc. Calories on the lable are not equal to calories your body would use in energy metabolism. For example, protein is mainly used in groth and repair, and only once those functons are covered, can potentially be used as energy source. Yet, all 4 kcal per gram of protein counted as part of your calories in. Sometimes fats are not metabolised at all,  they go in and out unprocessed, Alli mechanism is based on that concept. But again you count those 9 kcal per gram as calories in.
So, you don't know your in, you don't know your outs, yet it works ?? Seriously?
If simple methods calories in - calories out was working, weight loss would be easy. Yet here we are[/quote]

your post makes no sense. Sure we don't know with 100% certainty how many calories we burn on a given day. We also don't know with 100% certainty how many we consume because calories listed for foods are averages. Still we can get a decent idea of how many calories we are consuming. If you are eating X and losing weight then you are in a deficit. If you are eating x calories and not losing then you are not in a deficit. Can't change the laws of thermodynamics. Now sometimes we think we are eating x but in reality we are not tracking accurately or consistently and relay eating a lot more.

now there is a lot of gray area in there are people tend to not track accurately or consistently. You see it here all the time. Someone says they are eating some crazy low number of calories and have been doing so for months and can't lose wight. But I would bet my life that they are not really eating that low number of calories consistently (Exception being a legit metabolic issue, which is usually not the case). What typically happens is someone eat that crazy low number, let's say it is 1200 calories for a few days or maybe even a week, but it's not sustainable,. They are incredibly hungry all the time so they binge or overeat here and there. Another issue is people are not as consistent at they thing. They hit their calorie target for a few days then go ff the rails on the weekend and it cancels out everything else.

Then you have people who say they are "eating more than before and losing weight. must be because I am eating more and out of starvation mode." But the reality is they are losing because they are in a more sustainable deficit. Because they aren't eating a crazy low number of calories, they feel more satisfied overall, aren't depriving themselves, are allowed to include most foods in moderation and thus have a better chance of adhering to their diet and consistently hitting their calorie deficit target. [/quote]

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