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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thanks, my kid had a huge jump in the one she took today but her score was already 98th percentile in Fall, was just wondering if it might help. What is the appeals process out of interest?[/quote] 98th percentile is too low. [/quote] Well, gee, thanks, did you read the part about where I said she had a huge jump today? (I can spell that out for you if you’d like but it means way above 99th which is where she’s been at since K.) But thanks for your superior insight. Strangely kids I knew who got in last year had scored significantly below that but, whatever, I’ll just listen to you, wise one.[/quote] Stop. I've been in your shoes, so I'm just telling you how it is. If you appeal with Winter scores, they might move your kid from reject to waitlist as a gesture, and then never take her off the waitlist. Now that MCPS has opened the magnets seats to ALL 5th graders, which is a good thing, kids need to have more than 99th percentile MAPs and very high entrance exam scores. My 99th+ percentile kid dances rings around my 98th percentile kid. Most non-scientists don't understand this, but "slight" differences at the leading edge translate to very different IQ scores. A 99.1th percentile student is not nearly as highly functioning as a 99.9th percentile student, whereas there is virtually no functional difference between the 50.0 and 50.8 percentile. [/quote] That is true for IQ tests but all of the tests used by MCPS state they are not designed , and should not be used, to distinguish those in the top percentile from one another.[/quote] Exactly and there’s no statistical difference between 98.5 and 99.1 percent in MAP, esp for kids why fluctuate between 98 and high 99 percentile. The MAP scores are offered in three point range anyway.[/quote] Wrong on both counts, very wrong indeed! The entire point of magnet schools is to give seats to the most gifted students, not to offer a seat lottery to the top 1%. Therefore MCPS should, and does, through the magnet middle school Advanced Ravens Matrices test, specifically distinguish between highly achieving students. However, MCPS then screws it up by adding a murky cohort-cough-diversity criteria, which should be illegal because it's not transparent. If they want to add a non-academic filter, fine, but at least make the exact formula public (it's not exact, it's very subjective, and that's why they won't). My 99th+ percentiler's MAP comes out like this: 99-99-99. Meaning that she is within the 99th percentile range. My other kid's score is usually: 97-98-99. Meaning that he is in the 97th to 99th bracket, but not above 99th. There is a [u]significant[/u] mathematical difference between those two outcomes. And through observation, I see the functionality difference at home and at school. Also, one is in a magnet, the other was wait-listed after appeal. [/quote]
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