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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Well, I thought it would come to this and it has. The UMC will split into two denominations with the UMC maintaining the reconciling ministry allowing LGBT clergy and allowing clergy to perform gay marriages.

A new "traditional Methodist" denomination will spin off that will follow the traditional plan that was voted on last year and set to be implemented starting yesterday that would bar clergy from conducting gay marriages and ordaining gay clergy.

I really think it is for the best. Much like this country, the UMC has been sharply divided and polarized by this difference in opinion with predominantly the non-US churches wanting to follow the traditional plan and about 3/4 of the American churches that wanted to continue with the former policies. The non-US churches and the smaller demographic of conservative US churches will spin off.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/01/03...ns-third-largest-denomination/

I remember when this happened to the Episcopalians. I would not be opposed to it in my own faith, Catholicism, if it mean that my daughter did not have to leave to marry the woman she loves some day.

Your daughter can marry legally in a court of law. The Catholic sacrament of marriage is between a man and woman. There are sacraments that not everyone gets — the sacrament of ordination, as an obvious example. Your daughter doesn’t have to leave Catholicism over it.[/quote]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church names “homosexual acts” as “intrinsically immoral and contrary to the natural law,” and names “homosexual tendencies” as “objectively disordered.”  A person who is married to a same-sex partner is not permitted to receive Communion.  Not being able to receive the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist is terribly exclusionary and a painful reminder each week that your own church considers you less than worthy.  So maybe you don't have to leave, but church shouldn't be a constant source of pain and discrimination. [/quote]

Please cite the Catechism passage that says she can’t receive communion.  You can’t because that is NOT true.  There are some uber-conservative parishes that make a show of denying communion to people like Joe Biden to make a point, but the vast majority of parishes give communion to all us sinners (divorced, criminals, etc.) because the actual Catholic teaching is that for all we know the person’s heart at that moment may have been reconciled to God.[/quote]

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