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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I'm all for being physically fit, but I just don't understand the need to recruit Olympic caliber athletes. It's sad that there are very few "walk-on" positions on college teams any more. Everything has become so unnecessarily professional. [/quote] A PP here. Not to keep harping on this point, but all of the athletes at Williams ARE walk-ons. As D3 athletes, they do NOT receive athletic scholarships! Some schools do give leadership grants and stuff to athletes, but, every student is eligible for those if they have strong extracurriculars. My daughter is a D3 athlete. She was recruited by some DI and DII scholarship schools but she is not Olympic caliber! She is good student and a good (not elite) athlete who chose to go D3 because of the academic benefits. She was not pressured to play her sport growing up or to specialize. She played two sports because she wanted to. She WAS pressured to get good grades and to be active in community service. Overall, the tone of the OP and other has become increasing anit-athlete. You feel how you feel, but please be informed about what you are saying. All college athletic programs are not the same and there is HUGE difference between the athletic programs at the DI level (the big boys and the Ivies) and D3 (non scholarship athletes). [/quote] All the athletes at Williams are not walk-ons. No $ but the coaches interface with admissions AND select the players. http://athletics.williams.edu/Factors_in_Admission_Decisions http://athletics.williams.edu/NESCAC_Admission_Policies Recruited D1-2-3 athletes get a "pre-read" from admissions then apply ED . [/quote] Could be that we are using different defintion of walk ons? In the current athletic world, a walk on at a scholarship school is someone who is a non scholarship player...whether that person was recruited or not. The coaches interface with the admissions people - sure they do. But it is very rare that the D3 coach can get a kid in the school who is not within the range of admissions. I do not think anything is wrong with it. But then again, I have seen college band directors go to bat with admissions for students in the music program and I have seen a dance professor go to bat for my niece (a dance major). Let me cut to the chase.....what's the point? What is the personal impact on you? Is your DC a non-athlete and you fear that DC is at a competitive disadvantage because of the number of athletes at Williams? I mean for every article or book that you post about why the "emphasis" on college athletic is problematic, I can cite an article or book that says it is a good thing for the students and the campus community. A lot of the posts here have portrayed the D3 athlete has having tunnel vision, not as high grades as non-athletes and other things - all generalizations and inaccuracies. I am simply pointing out that most of the student athletes at the D3 level are good well rounded students who deserve their admission and happen to have an extracurricular that is in demand. They should not be diminished because other kids chose differently. [/quote]
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