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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder how old these Kia impressions are.  I have a [b]2018[/b][i][u] Kia Niro and love it.  We looked at Kias a few years prior and were disappointed in the build quality and bought something else.  But their newer models get good reviews and I liked it more than everything else we saw.

I remember in the 80s when Toyatas had the reputation of being cheap and crappy.  That's obviously changed.  I wonder if Kia isn't turning that corner.[/quote]
key point here.[/quote]

I also ended up in rented KIA recently and thought that the build quality seemed much improved from 10-15 years ago.  I was in a newish Sorento, though.

If I was just looking at a vehicle to throw some miles on, then I would look seriously at the Optima.  I'm a Toyota owner, but my perception is that even the entry-level American cars have largely caught up to where Honda and Toyota were in the 90s.  At that time, the Honda and Toyota sedans were seen as miracles because they lasted to 250K generally without major problems, whereas American cars tended to become real headaches around 100k.  Now, I don't think that is the case.  My brother works in an unaffiliated shop in the Midwest, and seems to think that 250k has become more the standard on sedans like Focuses and Fusions. I'm sure that every company has some extra long-running vehicles.  My dad put something like 400,000 on an Oldsmobile van.  The point of this digression is that if the Optima is going to hold up to 250k, then you were probably going to want to replace the car at that point anyway because in 10-20 years there will be a new generation of tech.  And you can get the KIA for substaintially less, not quite half price, but not so far off either.  But my opinion has always been that the best car is the one with the lowest true cost of ownership.  To me, Honda's have moved away from economy roots to become quite pricey, though if you care about all those extras perhaps it is a bargain.

However, I don't know anything about the safety ratings of the vehicle. That could be a serious concern, particularly if you see the vehicle as a potential hand-me down to a future teen driver.[/quote]
Kias is not American. It's Korean. As is Hyundai.[/quote]

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