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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But. It’s. Already. Happening.

It’s called data mining. Admissions offices have done it for at least a decade. You just didn’t know about it. And now they are outsourcing that work to the College Board. [/quote]

And the CB is really slipshod. For example, they screwed up the International test whose scores were just released, and the curve was -30 for 1 missed math, -40 for one missed Language. Happy 1530 with 2 missed.  Last June’s US SAT also had a bad curve. Tested get leaked all the time. They screw up administrations all the time.  I don’t trust the college board to do this well. I trust them to do it cheap and quick.  There are a lot of ways to massage the system, starting with “accidentally misbubbling” parents marital status and education and ESL status.

It’s different when different colleges look for different things, and at different data.  Here, the score follows my kid to every single college. And I don’t get to know what it is or correct it if it is wrong.

Pass. [/quote]

So much data your kid already discloses tells the colleges this stuff.. If your kid goes to a ‘good’ public high school with a low percentage of Title 1 students and a high percentage going to 4-year colleges (disclosed on the school profile your counselor provides to every college - without your seeing it) they know you have high SES and low levels of social and economic adversity. If parents have college degrees that sends a signal. If you are not applying for financial aid - you’re sending a similar signal.

I’m not sure I trust a university work study kid entering data into whatever homegrown or commercially available database to do this either. But the vast majority of students admitted and going to college have no SES adversity factors.

College Board is trying to put the data vendors out of business. But the market for this information already exists and will continue even if the CB didn’t proceed.

What this tells me is that people hate the College Board. [/quote]

True. The College Board screws up and isn’t held accountable.

I’m fine with a college knowing and considering most of the underlying data being provided.  I do not trust the college board to compile it in a meaningful way without errors. And reducing my kids entire life to a number seems ridiculous.

I don’t mind colleges saying, about my kid 1520– that’s impressive.  But, this kid went to a top public school in the DMV and has an affluent, educated family, so that’s probably the top of what he can achieve.   I even understand them saying that the candidate with a 1470 from a first gem, poor family, and a crappy school is a better admit than my kid.  Kid 2 likely has had to do more, without much support to get to where they are.  And there is context there.

I worry about the formula that says 1520 AI 10 < 1470 AI 50.  Especially when AI 50 is a kid whose house cost the same as ours and who fami,y has the same education and income as ours, but they have the biggest, newest house in a crappy neighborhood feeding to Mt. Vernon, and we have a small townhouse in a neighborhood full of mansions feeding to McLean. Kid 2 hasn’t had more adversity than my kid.

This formula has the potential to assign the same score a kid from an educated, affluent family who bought a lot $750,000 house in a crappy neighborhood feeding to Mt. Vernon and a kid with a 1st gen family making $60,000 with both parents working their butts off and squeezed into a rented apartment near an affluent neighborhoods feeding to Chantilly.   And the don’t face the same adversity. I’m okay with the first gen kid getting a boost— but they already do. I’m not okay with can buy a $750,000 house chooses Mt. Vernon family getting the same boost.  
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