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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Should men be allowed to compete against women in women's sports? [/b] Disorders of sexual development can be devastating. Especially since they're often hidden and many societies are very uncomfortable with it, leaving people without an understanding of what's going on. I understand that often people with DSDs don't even find out until something goes wrong later in life (such as trying to figure out why puberty isn't going as expected, or they aren't able to have children). There is no easy answer here. Reasonable people can see harm happening no matter what the decision is.[/quote] How is that relevant? Caster Semenya is a woman. Should women be allowed to compete against women in women's sports?[/quote] We don't actually know that. From the information available, it is likely that Caster Semenya is intersex. This is only being discussed because Caster Semenya competes at the highest level of athletics, and is exceptional. It is unfortunate that women are at such a physical disadvantage generally, that whenever someone is phenomenal there is a suspicion that they may not be a biological woman. There are some unfortunate facts of biological life, and women generally being at an athletic disadvantage is one of them.[/quote] "A biological woman"? Seriously?[/quote] NP. What is your issue with that term?[/quote] Not the PP, but you are erasing all of the different ways in which someone can be a biological woman. Semenya was born a girl and raised as a woman. One assumes she has "girl parts" and either XX chromosomes or some variation thereof. She is biologically a woman by literally any standard one could apply. [/quote] If she has the intersex condition she is understood to have, then she has external "girl parts", and internal "boy parts", and XY chromosomes. That is not a biological woman. [/quote] There is literally no evidence that she has one intersex condition or any intersex condition at all. Her testosterone levels are high, but that's not proof that you personally understand what condition she may or may not have. [/quote] Her testosterone levels are in the normal range for a man, and abnormal for a woman. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of evidence that she has some intersex condition. [/quote]
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