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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oxbridge / caltech model is the best.

[b]German model is good as well.
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There's multiple problems with the German model.

First, if you don't get into the right high school, you will NEVER go to college. You'll be sent to trade school as a teen. This obviously blocks teens with learning issues from getting into college. Some people mature later in life and could end being a brilliant academic in college, if just given the chance. I know many people who had terrible high school experiences and grades (usually due to a traumatic home life or school bullying), but then excelled once they got into college.

The 2nd big issue with the German system is that people would literally be in an undergrad program for 8 years before finishing. Once you got into the university, it was very difficult to get you out. The education was basically free, plus the German government gives you a monthly subsidy as a student to pay your living expenses. The professors in many German universities are very strict about failing 30-50% of the class, so you'd need to take a single class perhaps multiple times before passing. This kept Germans in their 20s in college for way too long. I think they've recently enacted a time limit to finish your bachelor degree (7 years?). That said, the German up-and-out method produces very smart individuals who have a mastery of the material. I've met many who come to the U.S. for grad school and find it to be way too easy compared to the German system. [/quote]

Everything you’ve described sounds like a feature to me - not a bug. [/quote]

Really? A system that ensures that, say, dyselxic kids won't become engineers, doctors, etc. is a feature, not a bug? Or a kid who is abused and traumatized during childhood and so doesn't do well until they have matured more is a feature, not a bug? I'm not saying we should be nice to dyslexics and abused kids for moral reasons (though there is that), but that our country would lose out on the originality of dyslexic thinking, and we'd be poorer for it. [/quote]

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